Tent Discussion (final one)

This is everyone's chance to comment on the tent problem. Lets have 1 last discussion.

This is the last resort, if this does not work. We will remove tents totally. People could still store items in vehicles.

The best solution I have ATM is........
1. Deleting all tents (giving people time to grab some stuff and transfer to vehicles)
2. Giving each player 1 tent. This will be considered your issued tent (you can still loot tents, and keep them. But any tents you place will be deleted each day. Your "issued" tent is the only one safe from deletion.)
3. If someone finds your tent and raids it, you can ask me to delete it. (so you can pick a new spot for your "issued" tent)
4. If you want to change locations, you will need to find a tent on your own. (I will only supply the 1st tent)
5. Since each player will only have 1 tent, I will be able to monitor what they are doing with them (much easier)
6. The glitch will still exist, so anyone suspected of exploiting the glitch will lose the privilege of using tents. (any tents they place will be swiftly deleted)

I am still searching for a way to fix this bug via serverside scripts or changes to the mission file. So far I've had no luck. This has become a BIG problem. When I look at the tents on the map, I see way too many high grade weapons. This glitch has totally removed the "risk" of death. People can simply visit their tent and gear up with the exact same loadout (which consist of every good item in the game). Some people no longer need to loot anything.

So please just say whatever you think, I still want to hear everyone's opinions. If you think this is a bad idea, please say so, and maybe include your idea for fixing this. Hopefully nobody will hate me, but its officially out of hand.

thanks guys
-skeeter

well i honestly think it sgetting out of hand i foun dsome guns that were totally removed in soe guys tent an i think he was glitching em because everytime i went back there before restart it was gone but after restart boom it sback i have to agree with you but can we find more tents like 2 maybe?


Thanks

Adam

While tent duping and weapon/gear duping is a major problem, I think that deleting tents altogether would be a bad move. I guess issuing everyone 1 tent each would be a good way to deal with it. But won't people still be able to dupe items and then put them into a car or something? I just feel like it's more punishing to the people who don't cheat unfortunately.

I can't really think of another way to deal with that either so I guess issuing players 1 tent would be the best way to go, I personally would be Ok with that, but I don't know about others feelings about it.

Even that solution will not work. once a player has pitched a tent he only has the full use of it till a server restart. At which point the tent becomes locked and "glitched". This means that the player can place no new items within the tent after the restart because they will just be deleted upon the next restart and anything taken out of the tent will be duplicated. The ONLY solution is the complete removal of tents and use other means of storing items like cars and truck and so on.

i wish more people would of commented. because i know as soon as i wipe the tents from map/loot table......people are going to flip

*example of side chat*



[2013-03-03 | 01:52:23] (Side) skeeter: ????WTF!!!!!
[2013-03-03 | 01:53:23] (Side) skeeter: ankangadjinrndnsidnclsjiitiwmvnjs
[2013-03-03 | 01:53:26] (Side) skeeter: wheres my MOTHER FUCKING TENT!!!!!!!!
[2013-03-03 | 01:53:30] (Side) Admin: we had to delete them skeeter, i'm very sorry.
[2013-03-03 | 01:53:47] (Side) skeeter: well fuuuuuuuuck you dude


okay i was just messing around......
**serious face**

Yes, sadly it seems the only true fix is a total removal of tents.
I've been dragging my feet for a lot of reasons, MAIN reason being - a lot of people are working on serverside fixes with this. I've tried some stuff, but didn't even come close. However some very talented people are working hard to fix this. I was hoping by now it wouldn't be a problem.

Its hard deleting peoples hard work, some of the community have not abused the tent glitch. They are completely innocent. Their tents do not contain as50's or m4 sd's. They contain various items (that they spent hours collecting). To simply delete it is not something I want to do.

Even though at the moment it is the only way to solve the problem.
Some people are wondering why I dont just delete all the tents........if thats the only fix at this time, then a couple more days wont matter much.
I still have hope it can be fixed more properly, once I'm satisfied it cant be......then the last resort is complete deletion of every single tent on the map (134 tents).

Its easy to go this route, would take about 2 minutes. But I dont want to do it just yet. Hang in there, its a top priority and wont be put on the back burner.

-skeeter

I have to disagree with this method for many reasons. First of all, you would have to put in everything you want in that tent before a restart, otherwise it will get deleted. This will force us to have to use cars as bases, and seeing as how the camo UAZ and the ATV are the only vehicles that can actually be hidden without someone finding it a few days later, you may not see those as much.

So whats the answer to this? Some people are really abusing the problem. Others are not.

Atm these tents have totally removed any risk of death, tents always did this to an extent. But now you have endless supply to the itmes in the tent. People can totally empty the tent, run it over, do w/e. And after the next restart its full again.

Skeeter this is MY opinion......

Try to spawn in a few extra Atv's and cars on the Map for the next few days till every one reads the forum,
Give a specific day put it on global chat that tents will be deleted permanently until a fix is out say 3-4 days from now .... Maybe im wrong but this seems like the best solution to me until there is a tent fix out there

And from what i read ALOT of servers are doing the same deleting tents and increasing camo vehicles for the time being ....

How awesome would it be to have a day of anarchy where skeeteR calls out every tent location and players had to get to it and raid it before the players destroy it? I have nothing to contribute really, just wanted to point out what an awesome that event that would be.

Yeah I think you should delete all the tents until we see an update or a fix that makes them fair again. Also I agree that if you are going to do this you should add more bicylces , motorbikes and ATV's. Maybe more Humvees and camo uaz's as well , maybe a one or two more Urals every now and then because they are good for item storing.

thanks guys
this makes me feel alot better about the situation.
trauma's idea would be pretty crazy lol

another thing I'll add, I can keep all the tent information. (locations, contents, owners of said tents, etc) That way if this problem gets properly fixed.......I can just put all this information back into the database. Before removing the stuff, I'll save all this info and keep it, and hope for the best.

This discussion has helped me very much, hopefully it has helped everyone else understand the importance of the problem.

I will announce this with some automessages ingame very soon. This way people can come here and read this discussion, and add anything they would like. I wont waste a bunch of time with putting this remedy into place. I'll run a bunch of messages tomorrow, and sometime Wednesday we will temporally remove the tents (Thursday at the very latest, just in case real life interrupts me )

And I will be more than happy to get some more vehicles on the map that are easier to hide. Atv's and little camo UAZ's are actually very "hideable".

TENTS ARE FIXED, dont thank the dayz community devs either. They never admitted it was a problem.

This is a bliss hive fix. Its been added and will take effect on next restart (12:30 am 3/5/13)

Other testers have confirmed this works. So now I'm asking all you wild ass mf'ers to test this for me please.

Let me know if its really fixed or not, if not......we'll go with plan B.

If this fixes the problem, then we are back in business. Still some tents with some good stuff, but at least those are single items that wont be duplicated many times over.

So lets cross fingers and hope we can keep our tents.