Faction/Clan/Group Skins Poll

I would like to conduct a personal (Skeeter did not ask me to do this) poll that would see what the community wants to do when it comes to skins and how they will be had.

I will explain the options I came up with below:

Purchased + Unrestricted: Skins will be purchased with items and all skins will be available to everyone.

Purchased + Restricted: Skins will be purchased with items but each group will pick their dedicated skin that no one else can have (first come first serve basis. You like the skin? Join them.)

Purchased (Lottery) + Restricted: Skins will be purchased with items but each group will pick their dedicated skin no one else can have. Groups will pick favorite skin and if any other group picks that skin then there will be a lottery to determine the winner of the skin. Lottery will occur before implementation of skins so losers of the lottery have the chance to choose another skin thus possibly creating another lottery scenario). You are voting on the concept and not the method of lottery.

Purchased (Event) + Restricted: Skins will be purchased with items but each group will pick their dedicated skin no one else can have. An event (last man standing?) will determine the winner of the skins. To make this fair and balanced the players maybe could be stripped of all gear and are forced to stay within a town and fight to the death. You are voting on the concept and not on the event.

Free + Unrestricted: Skins will be free and players can pick whichever they like and change it freely.

Free + Restricted: Skins will be free but each group will pick their dedicated skin that no one else can have (first come first serve basis. You like the skin? Join them.)

Free (Lottery) + Restricted: Skins will be free but each group will pick their dedicated skin no one else can have. Groups will pick favorite skin and if any other group picks that skin then there will be a lottery to determine the winner of the skin. Lottery will occur before implementation of skins so losers of the lottery have the chance to choose another skin thus possibly creating another lottery scenario). You are voting on the concept and not the method of lottery.

Free (Event) + Restricted: Skins will be free but each group will pick their dedicated skin no one else can have. An event (last man standing?) will determine the winner of the skins. To make this fair and balanced the players maybe could be stripped of all gear and are forced to stay within a town and fight to the death. You are voting on the concept and not on the event.

I would like to make my vote public. I am voting for the option "Free (Lottery) + Restricted". Why am I picking this option? Well 1st: Free is a egalitarian choice for me. Some groups have plenty of loot they could purchase a group rate of skins for and this could make it difficult for some groups to get the skins they want. I want everyone to be happy. 2nd: The lottery is better than the event because there is random chance involved and less room for technical difficulties. 3rd: Restricted. I wasn't for this before but now I see where Scott was coming from. Restricted skins for factions could result in better team work but also acts as a "target painted on their backs". Groups like NofW are taking a risk by having the same skin. I don't know how many times I've hesitated to take a shot because I thought they were a friendly. I can go on about why this is better than unrestricted (spies anyone?) but I think I got my point across.

Please vote so we can figure something out as a community. Feel free to discuss and or add options to a future poll. I will gladly create another one after we come to a conclusion here.

Niche Votes:

1 for "let's not have any skins at all because that defeats the purpose of hero/survivor/bandit anonymity and the implied moral choices that could stem from said system based on whatever a player is feeling at a given moment, should he or she choose to react a certain way, particularly since this ambiguity is a large part of what the game is based on."

thats a great post petrov I like it , Sh kinda have their own skin (must be a hero) I would love to know who we are firing on sometimes

Thanks petrov

I would like to know what people are thinking about this as well, since its the hardest part to decided on.

thnx again for doing this

skeeteR wrote:Thanks petrov

I would like to know what people are thinking about this as well, since its the hardest part to decided on.

thnx again for doing this

Anything I can do to help! I hope we come to conclusion soon because I feel like skins will really make the server a new environment!

Its gonna make you a more proficient killer thats for sure

The average number of players seems to be around 30. I will conclude this poll around there...

TL;DR

j/k good effort there petrov

Like I said in-game, I don't mind to pay for the skins but I'd prefer if they were free.

I couldn't help but notice that there is no option for "let's not have any skins at all because that defeats the purpose of hero/survivor/bandit anonymity and the implied moral choices that could stem from said system based on whatever a player is feeling at a given moment, should he or she choose to react a certain way, particularly since this ambiguity is a large part of what the game is based on."

My two cents: skins are a horrible idea for the aforementioned reason.

here we go Sean the Purist
You shoot everyone on site anyways so it shouldnt matter to you its for the rest of us who dont wanna kill other clans who havent started any trouble yet ....

I love the idea to be able to know if its Coyotes who i dont wanna kill and Nofw who i do

Seananigans wrote:I couldn't help but notice that there is no option for "let's not have any skins at all because that defeats the purpose of hero/survivor/bandit anonymity and the implied moral choices that could stem from said system based on whatever a player is feeling at a given moment, should he or she choose to react a certain way, particularly since this ambiguity is a large part of what the game is based on."

My two cents: skins are a horrible idea for the aforementioned reason.

I don't have room to add more votes so I'll just add your vote in written form at the bottom.

You can still keep the hero/survivor/bandit skin and remain anonymous but that choice shouldn't keep others will to not be anonymous down. Even the SA will have customization of clothes. Some clans want to be targeted as well as be noticed because in the end...they figure out a way to do that. Scumbag Heroes: Requires a hero skin. Black and Yellow bandit: Black SUV. Etc. These groups find ways to not be anonymous so skins allows that choice.

Anyway, you're playing on a non-public modded server. We have increased spawn rates of vehicles and guns. new buildings. This changes game-play completely but you seem okay with that?

Dr. Petrov wrote:

Seananigans wrote:I couldn't help but notice that there is no option for "let's not have any skins at all because that defeats the purpose of hero/survivor/bandit anonymity and the implied moral choices that could stem from said system based on whatever a player is feeling at a given moment, should he or she choose to react a certain way, particularly since this ambiguity is a large part of what the game is based on."

My two cents: skins are a horrible idea for the aforementioned reason.

I don't have room to add more votes so I'll just add your vote in written form at the bottom.

You can still keep the hero/survivor/bandit skin and remain anonymous but that choice shouldn't keep others will to not be anonymous down. Even the SA will have customization of clothes. Some clans want to be targeted as well as be noticed because in the end...they figure out a way to do that. Scumbag Heroes: Requires a hero skin. Black and Yellow bandit: Black SUV. Etc. These groups find ways to not be anonymous so skins allows that choice.

Anyway, you're playing on a non-public modded server. We have increased spawn rates of vehicles and guns. new buildings. This changes game-play completely but you seem okay with that?

I love Petrov All Homo ! Plus 10+

Another reason clan based skins would be good is it identifies them, sometimes i get killed and i dont know if it was black bandit or NofW. Without having the death messages we could know what people look like, it'd be more realistic

xHGx Reflex wrote:Another reason clan based skins would be good is it identifies them, sometimes i get killed and i dont know if it was black bandit or NofW. Without having the death messages we could know what people look like, it'd be more realistic

Great point. Skeeter has been working on death messages I think...but I would much rather prefer this.

Seananigans wrote:I couldn't help but notice that there is no option for "let's not have any skins at all because that defeats the purpose of hero/survivor/bandit anonymity and the implied moral choices that could stem from said system based on whatever a player is feeling at a given moment, should he or she choose to react a certain way, particularly since this ambiguity is a large part of what the game is based on."

My two cents: skins are a horrible idea for the aforementioned reason.

From the discussions I have had with Skeeter the bandit/survivor/hero system would still be in place. For example Bandits would be limited to Opfor series skins (MVD insurgent Spetsnaz) Heroes would be Blufor (USMC US BAF GER TAKI) and Survivors could be Indie (PMC Guerrilla). Just using those skins as an example nothing has been decided as of yet. The humanity system would remain intact but the current political system on the den would just be more fleshed out.

[NofW] Scott wrote:

Seananigans wrote:I couldn't help but notice that there is no option for "let's not have any skins at all because that defeats the purpose of hero/survivor/bandit anonymity and the implied moral choices that could stem from said system based on whatever a player is feeling at a given moment, should he or she choose to react a certain way, particularly since this ambiguity is a large part of what the game is based on."

My two cents: skins are a horrible idea for the aforementioned reason.

From the discussions I have had with Skeeter the bandit/survivor/hero system would still be in place. For example Bandits would be limited to Opfor series skins (MVD insurgent Spetsnaz) Heroes would be Blufor (USMC US BAF GER TAKI) and Survivors could be Indie (PMC Guerrilla). Just using those skins as an example nothing has been decided as of yet. The humanity system would remain intact but the current political system on the den would just be more fleshed out.

I just don't see the bandits, heros and survivors skins being enough either. We have too many groups and I believe more skins = a more intense and fun game play.

Dr. Petrov wrote:

[NofW] Scott wrote:

Seananigans wrote:I couldn't help but notice that there is no option for "let's not have any skins at all because that defeats the purpose of hero/survivor/bandit anonymity and the implied moral choices that could stem from said system based on whatever a player is feeling at a given moment, should he or she choose to react a certain way, particularly since this ambiguity is a large part of what the game is based on."

My two cents: skins are a horrible idea for the aforementioned reason.

From the discussions I have had with Skeeter the bandit/survivor/hero system would still be in place. For example Bandits would be limited to Opfor series skins (MVD insurgent Spetsnaz) Heroes would be Blufor (USMC US BAF GER TAKI) and Survivors could be Indie (PMC Guerrilla). Just using those skins as an example nothing has been decided as of yet. The humanity system would remain intact but the current political system on the den would just be more fleshed out.

I just don't see the bandits, heros and survivors skins being enough either. We have too many groups and I believe more skins = a more intense and fun game play.

I think more skins will help make players more unique and will help with immersion/the role playing element. I always found it arcade-ish that everyone had the exact same clothing on. The only reason the humanity requirement was brought up with skeeter was because we didn't want random bandits rolling with hero skins but now that it's not a purchase system with free for all picks we may not need it. I was just trying to please the all mighty Sean.

If it pleases and sparkles I would like to suggest we reopen removing trees for discussion: see here

I want our clan to have 3 Wolf (As Coyotes) Moon T-shirts.

Taken by us already you get the pick Rainbow unicorn shirts

Dr. Petrov wrote:

Seananigans wrote:I couldn't help but notice that there is no option for "let's not have any skins at all because that defeats the purpose of hero/survivor/bandit anonymity and the implied moral choices that could stem from said system based on whatever a player is feeling at a given moment, should he or she choose to react a certain way, particularly since this ambiguity is a large part of what the game is based on."

My two cents: skins are a horrible idea for the aforementioned reason.

I don't have room to add more votes so I'll just add your vote in written form at the bottom.

You can still keep the hero/survivor/bandit skin and remain anonymous but that choice shouldn't keep others will to not be anonymous down. Even the SA will have customization of clothes. Some clans want to be targeted as well as be noticed because in the end...they figure out a way to do that. Scumbag Heroes: Requires a hero skin. Black and Yellow bandit: Black SUV. Etc. These groups find ways to not be anonymous so skins allows that choice.

Anyway, you're playing on a non-public modded server. We have increased spawn rates of vehicles and guns. new buildings. This changes game-play completely but you seem okay with that?

TL;DR: Petrov puts the bandit in his place for bitching about modding an alpha staged... mod.

Milans wrote:Taken by us already you get the pick Rainbow unicorn shirts

What you don't know is that I'm a Brony, so that's A-O.K. with me. Except make it Rainbow Pegasus instead of Unicorn.

ProDerp wrote:

Milans wrote:Taken by us already you get the pick Rainbow unicorn shirts

What you don't know is that I'm a Brony, so that's A-O.K. with me. Except make it Rainbow Pegasus instead of Unicorn.

If I ran across you guys in the woods with MLP t-shirts:

In this thread: we attempt to turn Dayz into Barbie Princess Online and play dressup.

Skeeter if you're going to have to put up with the administrative overhead of maintaining this, I hope you get paid for it

I think, uniforms as they are, are the call of a clan or group. And therefore should be THEIR responsibility to acquire and wear. I don't feel any set skin should be exclusive to a clan; I'm not fond of the idea of having to join a clan to pursue a particular skin. IE: if a group all wants to wear Hero skins, its on them to chase down the humanity and become Heroes. I don't feel any of the skins should be sequestered off for a particular clan. If you want to all look the same, then strive to look the same. Make it a requirement of enlistment and recruitment. But, if I so choose to wear the same skin; so be it. Its up to you to tell us apart.

Its not hard for me to acquire actual military, and or various other uniforms in reality, regardless of whether or not I'm a member of said organization.